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		<title>By: Ned Kelly</title>
		<link>http://underthejacaranda.wordpress.com/2008/11/29/from-under-the-snow/#comment-1306</link>
		<dc:creator>Ned Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, JR, Catherine and I are Australians, and so she and I are FAIRLY AND EQUALLY hostile to ALL asinine political ideologies!

Germany, America, the British Empire, the Japanese Empire, the Chinese Empire...Catherine and I laugh at them all, as all true Australians do!   :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, JR, Catherine and I are Australians, and so she and I are FAIRLY AND EQUALLY hostile to ALL asinine political ideologies!</p>
<p>Germany, America, the British Empire, the Japanese Empire, the Chinese Empire&#8230;Catherine and I laugh at them all, as all true Australians do!   <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: justrecently</title>
		<link>http://underthejacaranda.wordpress.com/2008/11/29/from-under-the-snow/#comment-1304</link>
		<dc:creator>justrecently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cute. Yes, I can watch it here. I think I saw from the preview of  the banned movie that it somehow connected Rumsfeld and the nazis, and that I believe that this was the problem - either because you can sue people in Germany for making such comparisons, or because such comparisons are banned anyway. Censorship is never a good thing - but then, this country&#039;s Nazi years were not a good thing either. It&#039;s a matter that deserves to be put into question - but it goes beyond political correctness. Once you start equating current events with nazi ideology, you can easily start playing it&#039;s effects down.
It&#039;s fine with me if Americans equate people they dislike and the nazis. But it is a different story over here - it is a very practical problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cute. Yes, I can watch it here. I think I saw from the preview of  the banned movie that it somehow connected Rumsfeld and the nazis, and that I believe that this was the problem &#8211; either because you can sue people in Germany for making such comparisons, or because such comparisons are banned anyway. Censorship is never a good thing &#8211; but then, this country&#8217;s Nazi years were not a good thing either. It&#8217;s a matter that deserves to be put into question &#8211; but it goes beyond political correctness. Once you start equating current events with nazi ideology, you can easily start playing it&#8217;s effects down.<br />
It&#8217;s fine with me if Americans equate people they dislike and the nazis. But it is a different story over here &#8211; it is a very practical problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Kelly</title>
		<link>http://underthejacaranda.wordpress.com/2008/11/29/from-under-the-snow/#comment-1303</link>
		<dc:creator>Ned Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another American WW II cartoon; I&#039;d be curious whether this one is banned in Germany too.   It does feature Hitler, but in an abusive way, to say the least.

This one was done by my one of my all time favourite cartoonists, Bob Clampett.  His work was the most surreal of all the Warner Brothers&#039; cartoonists.   The &quot;Gremlins&quot; are all caricatures of people he worked with in his studio.   Anyway it&#039;s great fun, and kind of weird to see Stalin presented as a &quot;hero&quot; in an American cartoon!   http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=4xs8TVkJSUc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another American WW II cartoon; I&#8217;d be curious whether this one is banned in Germany too.   It does feature Hitler, but in an abusive way, to say the least.</p>
<p>This one was done by my one of my all time favourite cartoonists, Bob Clampett.  His work was the most surreal of all the Warner Brothers&#8217; cartoonists.   The &#8220;Gremlins&#8221; are all caricatures of people he worked with in his studio.   Anyway it&#8217;s great fun, and kind of weird to see Stalin presented as a &#8220;hero&#8221; in an American cartoon!   <a href="http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=4xs8TVkJSUc" rel="nofollow">http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=4xs8TVkJSUc</a></p>
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		<title>By: C.A. Yeung</title>
		<link>http://underthejacaranda.wordpress.com/2008/11/29/from-under-the-snow/#comment-1301</link>
		<dc:creator>C.A. Yeung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR, that&#039;s the problem with censorship motivated by political correctness, even though it&#039;s done out of good intention.  It sometimes really makes no sense.  And it&#039;s ashamed that you can&#039;t watch the Donald Duck cartoon.  Because I know you&#039;ll enjoy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JR, that&#8217;s the problem with censorship motivated by political correctness, even though it&#8217;s done out of good intention.  It sometimes really makes no sense.  And it&#8217;s ashamed that you can&#8217;t watch the Donald Duck cartoon.  Because I know you&#8217;ll enjoy it.</p>
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		<title>By: justrecently</title>
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		<dc:creator>justrecently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can I know how sensitive it is? I can&#039;t watch it here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can I know how sensitive it is? I can&#8217;t watch it here.</p>
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		<title>By: C.A. Yeung</title>
		<link>http://underthejacaranda.wordpress.com/2008/11/29/from-under-the-snow/#comment-1299</link>
		<dc:creator>C.A. Yeung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR said: The video is “not available in my country”, says YouTube. 

Heaven above!  It&#039;s only Donald Duck.  How &quot;sensitive&quot; can it be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JR said: The video is “not available in my country”, says YouTube. </p>
<p>Heaven above!  It&#8217;s only Donald Duck.  How &#8220;sensitive&#8221; can it be?</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ned Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well at least you have a sense of humour.

That youtube clip might be banned in Germany because it depicts swastikas, although it does so as a satire of Nazis.   But here&#039;s the same song on a clip without any swastikas:  http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=uQoW6WOehPE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well at least you have a sense of humour.</p>
<p>That youtube clip might be banned in Germany because it depicts swastikas, although it does so as a satire of Nazis.   But here&#8217;s the same song on a clip without any swastikas:  <a href="http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=uQoW6WOehPE" rel="nofollow">http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=uQoW6WOehPE</a></p>
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		<title>By: justrecently</title>
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		<dc:creator>justrecently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well... when you really &lt;i&gt;love&lt;/i&gt; your country, it doesn&#039;t matter if others do or don&#039;t. Besides, we lost the war, but won the peace. 
The video is &quot;not available in my country&quot;, says YouTube. You really must have a gut feeling for sensitive topics.
And yes, I&#039;m often told that I&#039;m arrogant. So I sure am a good German. Then again, most ppl who call me arrogant are Germans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230; when you really <i>love</i> your country, it doesn&#8217;t matter if others do or don&#8217;t. Besides, we lost the war, but won the peace.<br />
The video is &#8220;not available in my country&#8221;, says YouTube. You really must have a gut feeling for sensitive topics.<br />
And yes, I&#8217;m often told that I&#8217;m arrogant. So I sure am a good German. Then again, most ppl who call me arrogant are Germans.</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Kelly</title>
		<link>http://underthejacaranda.wordpress.com/2008/11/29/from-under-the-snow/#comment-1295</link>
		<dc:creator>Ned Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS, JR,

Catherine has said to me &quot;Oh dear, now you&#039;re being abusive toward Germans&quot;.   I said, &quot;No, I was just being fair, reminding them who won the war.&quot;

Now, THIS is abusive - but still fair, I think:

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=mZiRiIpZVF4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS, JR,</p>
<p>Catherine has said to me &#8220;Oh dear, now you&#8217;re being abusive toward Germans&#8221;.   I said, &#8220;No, I was just being fair, reminding them who won the war.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, THIS is abusive &#8211; but still fair, I think:</p>
<p><a href="http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=mZiRiIpZVF4" rel="nofollow">http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=mZiRiIpZVF4</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ned Kelly</title>
		<link>http://underthejacaranda.wordpress.com/2008/11/29/from-under-the-snow/#comment-1294</link>
		<dc:creator>Ned Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR,

Is it true that Germans believe German snow to be the &quot;Master Snow&quot;?
Or have the bloody Krauts finally learned their lesson after Russian snow - and the &quot;Untermenschen&quot; Russian people - kicked the shit out of the Germans?

(Sorry but yes, I still have a pet peeve about German arrogance.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JR,</p>
<p>Is it true that Germans believe German snow to be the &#8220;Master Snow&#8221;?<br />
Or have the bloody Krauts finally learned their lesson after Russian snow &#8211; and the &#8220;Untermenschen&#8221; Russian people &#8211; kicked the shit out of the Germans?</p>
<p>(Sorry but yes, I still have a pet peeve about German arrogance.)</p>
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